Nov 25, 2024
Nov 25, 2024
Sir, Recently I came across a statement of a well respected dog trainer in Europe. He said when your modern method will fail you may have to try the old school training style. Is there is any possibility of getting a copy/ photo copy of the dog training book by Raja Bhadri? I am into dog training (my hobby) & desperately searching for this book. with warm regards, Santosh |
My dear Shyam, My mail id is joshi.vijaykumar@gmail.com. You are welcome to communicate with me any time. It is a pleasure to know doggy people and to learn the nuances of the game from them. Thanks. |
Dear Mr. Joshi, Your blog was pointed out to me by an old American friend of mine wanting to know if I knew you. He came across your blog while researching about Raja Bhadri, about whose book I had mentioned to him. This person was the founder and past president and current examiner and board member of the US National Narcotics Detector Dog Association and the first person in the US to have trained a narcotics dog. I would very much like to communicate with you off the blog and would be grateful if you can send me your direct email address. Warm regards, Shyam |
Thanks Shyam. I am glad that you started training your dog with my 'guru's book. I agree with your comment that TIMING OF REWARD IS MOST IMPORTANT. It is so important that during my active days with dogs, my pockets always had crumbs of rewards and an object of getting scolded. I also agree that cruelty has no place in dog, but by pressing the jaws I never meant being harsh on the dog. Thanks for your comments. |
I too used Raja Bhadri's book to train my first German Shepherd way back in 1966. But things have changed as plenty of research has gone into animal psychology since then and better understanding and techniques have evolved. It is not that a pup retrieves instinctively when young and later gets the idea that he can run away – in almost all cases, he runs away because he has been inadvertently taught by his master to become possessive due to inadequate knowledge/technique. For most pups retrieving is great fun. The problem starts by taking the dumbell or toy away from the pup when he brings it to you and/or holding it out of reach or hiding it behind your back giving the impression that the item is being taken out of the play and that the fun will stop. Worse still is putting pressure on the lips as used in the past to make the pup leave the item - there is no surer way of making a pup "hand shy". Similarly chasing after the pup to get the object back is a cardinal sin. The correct and fail-safe way to do it is known as "back-chaining" ie. teaching the pup or dog to first take an object in it's mouth and leave it on command even before beginning to train the formal retrieve. The trick lies in IMMEDIATELY giving back the object when it is released in the initial stages of training so that an impression that the game will stop if the dog releases the object is NEVER allowed to take shape in the dogs' mind. New techniques now almost exclusively use food rewards (considered to be a form of bribery in the past and looked down upon) and are now considered the ONLY way to communicate with dogs, or for that matter, any other living creatures, including fish and insects, and produce super-fast results. Food as a motivator increases the chances of a behavior being repeated thus breaking through the most difficult of barriers, namely inter-species communication.But there are rules for it to be effective. A food reward, or “positive reinforcement” in scientific parlance, increases the chances of any behavior being repeated. However animals have short attention spans and therefore they can only connect the reward with the behavior immediately preceding it IF the reward comes ½ to 1 second of that behavior having occurred. If the reward comes later than that, the behavior which will be repeated may be something entirely different from what is attempted to be taught. Hence “Timing” of the reward is of utmost importance. The food reward is later faded out once the desired behavior is learned. There is however one problem – food cannot always be delivered within the specified time frame when teaching many exercises - for example when the dog is being taught a behavior at a distance, such as jumping a hurdle. This is overcome by a system known as “Markers” (on which “clicker” training is based) where a sound or word is first associated with the food reward and then used as a “bridge” between marking the desired behavior and delivery of food as a reinforcement. Now the “Timing” of the marker becomes critical and not the delivery of the food reward. Once the communication barrier is breached and the pup/dog "Learns to Learn", anything can be taught and the trainers imagination and the dogs’ physical capabilities become the only limits to training. |
Thank you Subodh. Naunny being a Lab is a born retriever. The problem to teach retrieving becomes acute with other breeds like a Boxer, all terriers, toys like Miniature Pinchers (once they learn they are damn gud at it) and Doberman. Breeds like GSD and Rottweilers are good at it. I have tried teaching the Bull Terriers to retrieve, they take hell of long time because of the structure of their suspensorium (hinge of the jaw), which once shut is difficult to open. I am writing another piece connected with retrieving, soon you will read about it. Best wishes. |
Sir, It was refreshing moment to go thru the entire article how best one can train the dog under his control. With simple command my wife has trained my lab Naunny to fetch towels for preparing Naunny to take bath.As and when Naunny is commanded "Naunny,nahana hai" Immediately she brings her towels not one but two towels one by one which belongs to her. If we say "Naunny, Ball kahan hai?" At once she 'll fetch the play ball from any coner. Article was very informative and we look forward for more such good readings. regards Subodh |